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BAY AREA HIGH HOLY DAYS

aquarianminyan — Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:29:13 GMT

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films available about Jewish-Palestinian relationship building

Alix — Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:05:08 GMT

Two, new 2007 films for BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS
~ ~ ~ for families, schools, communities, nations ~ ~ ~

1 ===> DIALOGUE AT WASHINGTON HIGH (DVD - 42 min)

* A Jewish and a Palestinian exemplar model how to connect with the "other" beginning with personal Story.
* Tenth grade high school students then engage each other in pairs with a new quality of listening.
* The diverse youth and their teacher then speak about their new way of communicating.

2 ===> PEACEMAKERS: Palestinians & Jews Together at Camp (DVD - 83 min)

* Jews and Palestinians -- Muslim, Christian and Jewish adults and youth -- live together at a California Jewish summer camp.
* They discover new ways to communicate and become more human together.

PROVIDED AT NO COST to citizens worldwide who will use them for education and community building.
Ordering information is at http://traubman.igc.org/vids2007.htm

Or Google:
DIALOGUE AT WASHINGTON HIGH
PEACEMAKERS: Palestinians & Jews Together at Camp

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A constitutional amendment banning torture, secret prisons, and extraordinary rendition

demablogue — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:04:44 GMT

The first constitutional amendment I would like to propose for your consideration is an amendment banning torture, secret prisons, and extraordinary rendition. I present the text of it below. for the full essay & analysis please see:
http://demablogue.typepad.com/

Amendment XXVIII

Section 1. Amendments V, VI, and VIII shall be understood to apply to all persons, US citizens and non-citizens alike, in times of war as well as in times of peace.

Section 2. Neither the US government nor any branch of the Military or the Intelligence Services shall hold any person without trial or without access to a lawyer, under any circumstances whatsoever.

Section 3. Neither the US government nor any of its agencies shall hold any person, citizen or non-citizen, in any form of secret prison or detention center. Any prison operated by the US government or any of its agencies shall allow access by the media, lawyers, the Red Cross or any other medical agency, and any international watchdog agency wishing to verify the humane conditions therein. These agencies or persons must have access to individual prisoners for private interviews for the purposes of verifying the humane conditions of the prison.

Section 4. Torture of any kind, on any person, citizen or non-citizen, held by the US government or any of its agencies, is espressly forbidden. Torture shall be understood to mean the intentional infliction of any kind of pain or discomfort, physical, mental, or psychological, whether for the purposes of extracting information or not.

Section 5. The US government, or any of its agencies, may not transfer any prisoner, citizen or non-citizen, for any reason, to the custody of any other nation, agency, government or corporation that does not guarantee the same rights and protections specified in this amendment, or that has a verifiable record of torture or other human rights violations.

Section 6. Any prisoners currently held by the US government, or any of its agencies, in conditions prohibited by this amendment, shall be guaranteed trial or released within six months of the passage of this amendment.

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Center for Middle Eastern Studies

naima — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:56:06 GMT

Hello Cyber World,
I am a student at the University of Chicago's Center for Middle Eastern Studies. I have been exposed to a lot of great scholarship and information that I would love to start sharing. I want to apply my education to problem solving and understanding the Other (on both sides, all sides...) I would love to talk with people in the "field" - inside/outside of academia...non-profits, ngo's...

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One objective eye witness to history

Lazarus_Long — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:10:41 GMT

This woman has lived through it all and is not partisan. Try reading her story from the perspective of vicarious eyes on the ground. Try and see the effects of policies that can have no future by better understanding the past.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/29/international/middleeast/29vester.html?8hpib

A Grande Dame of a Bygone Jerusalem

"We sit in our beautiful garden while people are killing each other in Ramallah. I really feel rather embarrassed by it."
-VALENTINE VESTER

By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: October 29, 2005
JERUSALEM

WHEN a photographer wanted her to put on an evening dress, Valentine Vester was appalled. "What do they imagine?" she asked. "That I'm the grande dame of Jerusalem?"

But in a way, she is. At 93, the resident owner of Jerusalem's most beautiful hotel, the American Colony, she is a last tie to an earlier era in the Middle East, before the Holocaust, the end of the British Mandate and the 1967 Arab-Israeli war changed the landscape and put her hotel, which was first under Ottoman, British and then Jordanian rule, firmly under the Israelis.

Now hard of hearing and with her vision failing, she remains funny and tart about the world around her and the accidents of her own life. She lives in an apartment on the grounds, equipped with strong lamps and a microphone for visitors, and she can be seen dressing down waiters who have been inattentive or sloppy.

"I'm quite well in myself," she says. "Nothing wrong with me. I can't see very well, I can't hear very well, and I can't walk very well, but I'm perfectly well."

Mrs. Vester, who was born in Yorkshire, England, married into a wealthy Chicago family, the Spaffords. They had decided to come to Jerusalem in 1881, after four of their children died in a shipping disaster, to live like early Christians, doing good works among the poor. In 1896, they bought this former pasha's palace, which had fallen vacant without a male heir.

She arrived in 1963, when her husband, Horatio Vester, a British lawyer and Spafford heir, took over the failing enterprise. "As in those days we were in Jordan, we didn't need licenses and things," she said. "You just showed up to run the hotel. He'd be called the C.E.O., and I'd be called the chief executive of the kitchen."

She was also the housekeeper, with special responsibility for what became the hotel's exquisite landscaping.

"I was rather spirited away from London," she said, and "there was a lot to put right." Thin, rather bent now, she gestured toward the grounds. "I never thought to create a luxury hotel, just a real one."

Her own family, the Richmonds, had ties to the Middle East. Her mother's half sister was Gertrude Bell, the renowned British archaeologist who helped create the modern state of Iraq after World War I. "She spoke the most beautiful classical Arabic and no one understood her," Mrs. Vester said. "I got fed up with her and the idolatry around her."

An uncle, Ernest Richmond, an architect, worked on Arab political affairs for the British in those years and was strongly anti-Zionist. "He became a Catholic convert and was violently anti-Semitic," Mrs. Vester said. "We were brought up very much pro-Palestinian," she added. "I was imbued with the notion that the Arabs were done down, but I try very hard to take a balanced view."

So she is pleased that the hotel, which is owned by a board of seven relatives, including her and her two sons, remains one of the few places where both Israelis and Palestinians come. "We've tried very hard to be neutral," Mrs. Vester said. "And we've tried not to let the hotel become some Disney Oriental, and remain rather traditional."

WHEN she arrived, "it was simpler then, and Jerusalem was a dear little town, a very social town," she said. Horatio, who was born here, thought that the Ottomans ran the city the best, she said, and remembered T.E. Lawrence, of Arabia fame, who often stayed and played goalie in the soccer matches that took place where the swimming pool is today.

The Vesters had a second house in Jericho, a beautiful desert oasis town, and often visited Aleppo, which she misses, and Beirut, where she and her husband used to go "for the eating." But the political tensions were obvious, and in 1967 the Israelis took East Jerusalem and reunited the city, annexing it and placing the hotel under Israeli control. "Suddenly, the city was reversed somehow," she said.

The Colony is on the border of East Jerusalem, a few hundred yards from the walls of the Old City and near the ultra-Orthodox Jewish district of Mea Sharim. Mrs. Vester remembers just after the war, walking through the grounds, when she saw some Jews from Mea Sharim picking flowers. She remembers saying, "Please don't do that, this is our private garden."

"They just said, 'But it's all ours now.' " she said.

SHE has had decent relations with the Israelis, especially with the famous former mayor of Jerusalem, Teddy Kollek, who came often, and the more dovish side of the Israeli political spectrum. She said that Mr. Kollek told her, "We can't expect the Palestinians to like us, but we have to do what we can."

During the first gulf war, in 1991, she says, the Israelis, under the threat of Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons and Scud missiles, handed out gas masks - but only to the guests, not to the Palestinian staff of the hotel.

"But we diddled them," Mrs. Vester said with pride. "We made an imaginary list of hotel guests. I mean two can play at that game. It was shocking, really."

Mrs. Vester has two sons, Paul, who works in animation in California, and Nick, who lives in London. She used to leave during the winter, but travel is becoming too much for her. "Still, the idea of spending the whole year here without traveling is" - she paused and said finally, softly - "rather melancholy."

She was here in 2002 when the Israeli Army re-established control over the West Bank after a surge in suicide bombings. "We sit in our beautiful garden while people are killing each other in Ramallah," she said. "I really feel rather embarrassed by it, ashamed in front of the staff, who live in these places and battle to get back and forth, with all these delays."

So the hotel hires more staff with Jerusalem identity cards. "They're more expensive and not so good," she said. "The new young waiters walking around look pretty gormless to me." But she has also pushed to hire some women, too, despite the disapproval of Mahmoud, the headwaiter.

She likes Jerusalem well enough, "but it's not really an eastern city, and it's rather a mess," she said. But the Israeli security barrier - a large concrete wall through most of Jerusalem - just makes her angry. "How can it not?" she demanded. "It's hideous. And the West Bank is like nothing now, all checkpoints and barriers and fences."

She understands the Israeli need for security, she said, but also thinks the Palestinians don't accept enough responsibility. "The Arabs are inclined to blame everything on the occupation - 'What we can do?' - and they shouldn't," she said. "They ought to do something about it." She was fond of the late Edward Said, a Palestinian who taught at Columbia University. "He was very hot on the Arabs standing on their own feet and standing up for themselves," she said.

Mrs. Vester sees no easy peace. "It's going to take a long, long time, whatever it is," she said. "I don't think I shall see the solution, and you may not, either."

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amazing weekend in Bay Area

Alix — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:25:53 GMT

hi folks,
it's your friendly moderator here, haven't been here in a long time...
i took part in this amazing weekend recently, with 140 arabs and jews from the middle east and bay area...
read about it here:
http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/27058/format/html/displaystory.html

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amazing weekend in Bay Area

Alix — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:21:23 GMT

Hi all,
It's me, your moderator, haven't been on here lately, but I just wanted to share an amazing weekend I was a part of a few weeks ago. We had 130 Palestinians and Jews, both from the Bay Area and the Middle East, take part in a weekend of dialogue at Camp Tawonga, a Jewish summer camp that has hosted this for the 3rd year running. This was by far the best year.
You can read about it here:

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September 24th Mobilization for Peace

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:12:41 GMT

www.unitedforpeace.org/

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Israelis Kill Top Islamic Jihad Militant

Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:47:34 GMT

JERUSALEM Jun 7, 2005 — Israeli soldiers killed a top Islamic Jihad militant in a West Bank gunbattle Tuesday, and a Palestinian mortar attack on a Jewish settlement in Gaza killed two non-Israeli workers in one of the deadliest days since both sides declared a truce in February.

The violence left five people dead. Other attacks included Palestinian rocket and mortar barrages aimed at a series of Israeli targets and Israel's killing of an unarmed man who entered Gaza from Egypt.

The clashes exacerbated tensions already inflamed by a confrontation Monday at a disputed Jerusalem holy site. The Islamic Jihad and Hamas militant groups blamed Israel for the violence, but said they had no intention of pulling out of the truce.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=826738

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Land Dilemma

Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:44:16 GMT

Sensitive land dilemma faces Palestinians in Gaza

JERUSALEM, June 5 (Reuters) A field of sand and scrub now hemmed in by concrete slabs poses a particular dilemma for Palestinians as they decide what to do with Gaza Strip land after Israel abandons its settlements.

This small and troublesome patch of land was privately owned by Jews even before Israel's creation in 1948. Today it is a part of the Kfar Darom Israeli settlement in Gaza. Soon the settlement will be gone and the Palestinian Authority will have to decide whether it should recognise a private Israeli claim.

On one hand the land, smack in the middle of a Palestinian redoubt like Gaza, is unlikely to make an attractive claim for a previous Jewish owner. It is also easy to overlook on a map because it has been part of a settlement since Israel occupied the Gaza Strip in the 1967 Middle East war.

On the other hand, Palestinian officials must consider their future land negotiations with Israel, during which they would like to show that their respect for private Jewish claims should be reciprocated. That may make it easier to demand respect for far larger Palestinian claims to land in what is now Israel.

''It is very important that Palestinian authorities deal with this issue properly from the very beginning even if they are talking about a small quantity of land,'' said Ingrid Jaradat, head of the Palestinian Badil refugee advocacy group.

''If we speak about land rights, they should be respected and treated the same way all over, in Palestine and in any similar case in the world where there is a conflict over land rights.'' Although Israel has handed over land to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza before, this is the first time it will have evacuated settlements in those areas, so the issue of how to divide them up has never arisen before.

Several Palestinian officials said any documented Jewish ownership should be recognised, although it was not a top priority.

But they also said it was premature to say if Jews have any legal claim today to land bought before 1948.

One Palestinian property specialist said the land in question was about 55 acres (22.26 hectares) -- less than a third of one percent of the territory Israel will give up in Gaza. Israel also plans to give up four of 120 West Bank settlements.

A Jewish community first established itself there in 1946, but fled during the 1948 Middle East war when Egypt took the Gaza Strip.

Israel founded a new settlement there after 1967.

http://www.deepikaglobal.com/ENG4_sub.asp?newscode=106307&catcode=ENG4&subcatcode=

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there's still the border issue

imad — Tue, 11 May 2004 07:20:13 GMT

well this discussion is basically attended for isrealis. but anyone could add his opinion.
i want to know if anyone knows whats the border that limits isreal.

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Promoting Arab and Israeli cooperation: peacebuilding through health initiatives

BobMaster — Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:45:23 GMT

Check this out:

http://www.spme.net/RESPONSE/cet031505.pdf

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The Post Arafat Era

Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:46:24 GMT

What will the passing of Arafat mean and who will takeover??

I'm hoping the new President will be strong and effective, able to stand up to Sharon and Bush while representing the needs of his/her people.

This is an opportunity for the region to turn a corner, and for the world to see change for progress.

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Arafat Collapses From Worsening Illness

MichaelKwiatkowski — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:58:33 GMT

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20041028/ap_on_re_mi_ea/arafat_s_health

RAMALLAH, West Bank - Yasser Arafat collapsed Wednesday night, was unconscious for about 10 minutes and remained in a "very difficult situation," Palestinian officials said. A team of Jordanian doctors was urgently summoned to treat the ailing Palestinian leader.

A Palestinian official in Arafat's office said the Palestinian leader had created a special committee of three senior officials, including Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia, to run Palestinian affairs while Arafat was incapacitated.

However, other Palestinian officials, including his spokesman Nabil Abu Rdeneh, denied that such a committee had been formed.

Arafat was eating soup during a meeting with Qureia, his predecessor, Mahmoud Abbas, and another official between 8 p.m. and 9 p.m. (2 p.m. or 3 p.m. EDT) when he vomited, according to a bodyguard who was in the compound at the time.

The 75-year-old Arafat was taken to the clinic inside the compound, where he collapsed and was unconscious for about 10 minutes, the guard said. His doctors were urgently summoned.

On news that Arafat's health was worsening, scores of top Palestinian officials descended on the sandbagged, partially demolished Ramallah compound where he has been confined for 2 1/2 years. The officials milled around the courtyard, waiting for news outside Arafat's three-story building that was bathed in spotlights.

Israeli security officials said Arafat's wife, Suha, who lives in France with their young daughter, was expected to arrive Thursday. The Jordanian doctors were also due Thursday.

An official in Arafat's office said the Palestinian leader had deputized Qureia, former Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, and Salim Zaanoun, head of the Palestinian National Council, to run the PLO and the Palestinian Authority while he is ill.

But when asked if Arafat had set up such a committee, Abu Rdeneh said: "Nothing like that."

White House spokesman Scott McClellan, traveling in Michigan with President Bush, said U.S. officials were monitoring the situation.

Arafat has been known to be ill for two weeks, but reports about his ailment have varied widely.

Palestinian officials said he had the flu. Israeli officials speculated he might have stomach cancer, but two of his doctors said Wednesday a blood test and a biopsy of tissue from his digestive tract showed no evidence of cancer.

On Tuesday, a hospital official said Arafat was suffering from a large gallstone. The gallstone, while extremely painful, is not life-threatening and can be easily treated, the official told AP.

Arafat has shown symptoms of Parkinson's disease since the late 1990s.

As Arafat's condition worsened Wednesday, a senior Palestinian official told The Associated Press that a decision to move Arafat from his compound to a hospital would be made purely on medical grounds, without considering politics. Israel had said Monday it would allow Arafat to leave the compound for the hospital and return afterward, something the Israelis had refused to guarantee during Arafat's 2 1/2 year confinement to his Ramallah compound.

A senior official in Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office said the Palestinians had asked Israel to allow foreign doctors to come treat Arafat.

"The prime minister immediately instructed the security officials and others involved to facilitate the transfer and any medical equipment and facilities Arafat might need," the official said, adding that Israel would also allow Arafat to be transferred to any medical facility in the world.

Dr. Ashraf Kurdi, a Jordanian doctor who is heading the team due to arrive Thursday, told AP that he was urgently summoned to Arafat's compound but was given no details.

"I tried to get a medical report from them. I couldn't get anything," he said.

Arafat's health crisis has highlighted how unprepared the Palestinians are for their leader's death, making a chaotic transition period all but inevitable. Arafat refuses to groom a successor; rival security chiefs already have battled each other in the streets.

Qureia and Abbas have both been touted as possible political heirs to Arafat, though the Palestinian leader has bickered with both and blocked their attempts to limit his powers.

No leader of Arafat's stature and popularity is waiting in the wings, said Palestinian legislator Hanan Ashrawi. "It's only natural to expect that there would be either a power struggle or there would be a loss of cohesion," she said.

Analysts said it could take years for a leader to emerge, hurting prospects for an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal. However, Israel and the United States hold out hope that a post-Arafat Middle East will be more conducive to peace because of what they say is Arafat's blind eye to terror and opposition to reform.

Polls show the second most popular Palestinian after Arafat is Marwan Barghouti, a leader of Fatah (news - web sites)'s young guard. But Barghouti is serving five consecutive life terms in an Israeli prison for involvement in deadly shooting attacks.

On paper, at least, a path of succession has been charted. The parliament speaker would replace Arafat as Palestinian Authority president for 60 days, until elections are held. However, current speaker Rauhi Fattouh is a bland backbencher uncertain to hold on during a turbulent transition period, and timely elections appear unlikely.

Arafat's other post, as PLO chief, would be filled, at least temporarily, by Abbas.

During Arafat's long confinement in the compound, doctors have equipped two rooms with medical equipment, including X-ray, ultrasound machines and emergency resuscitation gear.

In tests this week, Arafat was in his pajamas and wore a blue wool hat, instead of his trademark black-and-white checkered headscarf, an official on the medical team said.

The medical official said Arafat continues to sleep in a small room, which has only one window and is furnished with a bed and a closet, even though a new, sunnier room has been refurbished for him on another floor.

From his small window, Arafat looks out on rubble and heaps of cars flattened in previous Israeli raids.

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terrorism!!!!

imad — Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:19:37 GMT

well since sura mentioned the suicide bombers, i just wanted to say something about that.
i am totally against any form of violance. but how can u consider a suicide bomber a terrorist , on the other hand the pilot of an f-16 or apache whose killing perople (civilians) with missles and huge bombs from airs as a person whose defending his country.
the palastenians don't have any kind of weapons and they have been fighiting for 50 years using stones if u see them on tv. recently they found a way for defending themselves (suicide bombers) and suddenly they are accused of terrorism!

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Israel arrests UN personnel for "suspected terrorism"

bridgetmckenna — Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:07:08 GMT

17 minutes ago Top Stories - Reuters

TEL AVIV, Israel (Reuters) - Israel has arrested 13 U.N. employees and plans to indict them for "suspected links to terrorism," an Israeli army officer said Tuesday.

Maj.-Gen. Yisrael Ziv, speaking to reporters, did not say when they were arrested.

His comments came after Israel backed away from an accusation that Palestinian militants had used a U.N. ambulance in Gaza to transport a rocket to be fired at Israel.

"We have in our hands a list of 13 detainees who are to be indicted, they are U.N. people with suspected links to terrorism," Ziv said.

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whats ur opinion

imad — Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:45:30 GMT

i would like to know how & why most americans think that the palastenians and arabs are terrorists? and why don't they consider what isreal is doing as terrorism?

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New Here / SFJFF

HowieGreen — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:22:21 GMT

Hi everyone. New to the tribe. Glad to see spaces for lively and intellegent dialogue on the Middle East and Israeli / Arab relations exist here on tribe.

As many of you I am sure already know, the Jewish film festival is happening in San Francisco. A number of interesting films dealing with Israel and middle east politics will be showing at the Castro theater in the next few days at. Might anyone be interested in going to see one or more of these films as a group, then following the screening with discussion and drinks or dinner?
I don't have the full schedule in front of me, but a few of the films that cought my interest were "Aliya", by Amos Gatai (?), and the documantary "Checkpoint".

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Bush's nazi connections

MichaelKwiatkowski — Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:36:51 GMT

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_2-12-2002_pg3_7

“Doing business with the enemy is nothing new to the Bush family,” says a report published in American Freedom News (AFN). “Much of the Bush family’s wealth came from supplying needed raw materials and credit to Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich. Several business operations managed by Prescott Bush — the president’s grandfather — were seized by the US government during World War II under the Trading with the Enemy Act.”

As the AFN report noted, on October 20, 1942, the US federal government seized the Union Banking Corporation in New York City as a front operation for the Nazis. Prescott Bush was a director of the corporation. Bush, E. Roland Harriman, two Bush associates and three Nazi executives owned the bank’s shares.

Eight days later, the Roosevelt administration seized two other corporations managed by Prescott Bush. The Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation, both managed by the Bush-Harriman bank, were accused by the US federal government of being front organisations for Hitler’s Third Reich.

Again, on November 8, 1942, the US federal government seized Nazi-controlled assets of Silesian-American Corporation, another Bush-Harriman company doing business with Hitler.

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Jewish Military Tries to Silence Dissenters from Witin

bridgetmckenna — Fri, 25 Jun 2004 02:25:36 GMT

"Michaael" posted this on the Palestine tribe. Amazing it got coverage by a U.S. Newspaper:

www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp.../A766-2004Jun23

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any solution?

imad — Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:08:18 GMT

well, here is another topic that i would like to start and i hope u participate in it.
what is the best solution for the middle east conflict? and who do u think have more right?

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PLZ, PLZ check this

imad — Thu, 20 May 2004 07:22:25 GMT

i would like u to check this please. specially supastic.
2 masacres in less than a week.
just at least check the pictures in the page.
http://www.rafahkid.net/blog.html

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good deeds

Wed, 12 May 2004 04:42:47 GMT

anyone on this list either a 1st/2nd gen palestinian/israeli jew who has made conscious efforts to befriend someone of the opposite political persuasion ?

What has this friendship done to dispell the myths you were taught? Is it a quality friendship?

Do you think if more people made friends like you have especially within the region, the conflict could be resolved sooner?

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Incredibly Stupid Link - Click At High Risk of Possible Offense!

MichaelKwiatkowski — Sun, 16 May 2004 16:23:39 GMT

http://listen.real.com/contextwindow?cd=artistinfo2&CB=client&album=&artist=&genre=&nextartist

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Party!!!

Wed, 12 May 2004 04:44:43 GMT

I keep having these visions in my mind that one day when a final amicable solution is reached there will be a weeklong celebration in the region, jews and palestinians drinking and dancing together. That would be a wonderful historic event for the world and probably greatly increase the karma of this chaotic planet.

If and/or when reconciliation takes place what do you see as things to do, what kind of party would this be?

Humor me, c'mon! ;)

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dancing in the streets with israeli body parts

spasticfreakshow — Thu, 13 May 2004 08:57:51 GMT

look at this:

http://us.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/11/mideast.violence/

we jews would never, in a million years, dance in the streets with palestinian body parts. we would never publicly lynch palestinians who wandered into our territory by accident. this is not the actions of human beings - but of animals. it is sick and disgusting. it is times like these when we say the palestinians do not deserve reconciliation. let them keep the body parts, then they will also keep the fence and encourage its growth, then they will also keep the crazy settlers and the soldiers that go with them. they DEMAND occupation. they DEMAND war. play with our body parts if you like. see what it gets you, sicko-animal-nonhuman freaks!

goodbye deluded friends of palestine. perhaps you have no sympathy with *these* soldiers either or with their families. if that is the case, you are sickos as well.

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